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Hi, my name is Tony Rook. I'm Head of Sustainability and Environment at Logica UK.

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Great. So basically, Logica, I think, very interesting to Red Monk and Green Monk at the moment.

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We didn't really know much about them. Met Tony recently, and it's very clear that here is a systems integrator that is in the midst of a transformation,

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and they're helping their customers to transform their businesses in a lot of different ways.

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While some organizations are kind of greenwashing, acting as if they had a real green story, you guys clearly do.

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Whether we're talking about managing wind farms, whether we're talking about pushing towards smart grids,

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lots of real and substantive stuff in terms of the sustainability agenda.

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What I'm actually going to ask you about gets to one of the phenomenon that I've seen in a lot of companies,

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which is people creating their own jobs.

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So suppose you want to get a job in sustainability. How do you go about that?

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One of the things I've found is that people generally create their own.

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Does that chime with your own experience at all?

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Yes, it does.

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Basically, I went traveling as part of a year off from Logica,

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and out of that I understood what was happening to the environment,

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saw some of the impacts that man was having, and I took an interest.

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And I came back and did some investigation on environment.

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I did some investigation of what our practices were in Logica.

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I worked out the business case for making things better and more environmentally friendly and saving money at the same time.

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And from that, I started a program with Logica UK with the blessing of getting us to improve our environment with performance and save money at the same time.

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Oh, great. But initially speaking, at least, this is kind of something you did off your own back.

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Yeah.

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You kind of, you went in on weekends and you were measuring things and looking at things and sort of building your own case

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so that that then could get the support and buy-in from other management. Is that right?

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Yeah, that's definitely true.

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I came in at weekends and did energy surveys, seen how many lights were switched on, what PCs were switched on.

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I then went to our estates team and also worked out what the costing was involved and got some of the data so I could back up my case

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and then took them a business case and said, these are some of the actions we could do,

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and this is how we could improve our environmental performance, and started small, started with energy saving as a core discipline.

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And then from that, the success we had with that, with saving money, and in total we've saved millions in the last two years,

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has broadened to a wider and wider remit.

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Great. So there you hear it. If you want a green job, roll your own.

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Thanks very much.

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Thank you very much.